If you’ve ever felt like you “should have it figured out by now” after surgery… this workshop is for you.
In this session, Lauren Peat (Bariatric Nurse & Post-Op Coach) breaks down why long-term success after surgery can feel so hard — and more importantly, what actually needs to change to get back in control.
What you’ll learn inside:
Why you haven’t failed your surgery
You’ll understand why regain, food noise, and slipping back into old habits is not a lack of willpower — and what’s really going on instead.
What surgery changes… and what it doesn’t
While surgery changes your stomach and hormones, it doesn’t automatically change:
- emotional eating patterns
- stress responses
- habits and identity
This is where most people get stuck.
The real reason behind regain and food struggles
Lauren explains how:
- stress (cortisol)
- dopamine (reward-seeking)
- and old neural pathways
all play a role in driving cravings, habits, and behaviours — even years after surgery.
Why “knowing what to do” isn’t enough
Most post-op patients already know how they “should” be eating — but struggle to follow through consistently when life gets busy, stressful, or emotional.
The missing piece: identity, behaviour & support
True long-term success comes from:
- rewiring habits and thought patterns
- learning emotional regulation
- rebuilding trust with yourself
- and having the right support system around you
How to actually create lasting change
You’ll be introduced to a new way of approaching success — one that goes beyond food rules and focuses on:
- sustainable habits
- mindset shifts
- and real-life implementation
The key takeaway
This isn’t about being more disciplined.
It’s about understanding why you do what you do — and learning how to change it in a way that actually lasts.
If you’re feeling stuck, overwhelmed, or like you’re slipping backwards after surgery… you’re not alone — and there is a way forward.
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Transcription:
Bariatric Post Op Success Workshop-20260318_062828UTC-Meeting Recording – transcript
March 18, 2026, 6:28AM
1h 6m 9s
Lauren Peat 0:06
Hello, everyone’s coming in.
All right, wait a couple of minutes just because there will be a few people jumping in, so it might be a bit backlogged. But welcome. It’s so nice to see some of the new faces and some new people. So welcome, welcome. So excited to be here. Hope everyone’s had a great Wednesday. If it is Wednesday, we may have some people from around the world, so they might still be Tuesday.
Um, but yeah, welcome everybody as you jump on in.
How’s everyone going? Thumbs up if you had a good day or yeah, I know if it’s not been for good. Good, cool.
Perfect. I love some thumbs up. That’s always a great way to start the middle of the week because it only gets better from here because we get closer and closer to the weekend.
All right, welcome everybody.
So like I said, we’ll just wait a few minutes. I started early because I figured it’d be nice to come and see everybody. So while we’re waiting for everybody to jump in, if you could cheque in the chat how far post-op you are and if you had surgery and
What was I gonna say? Whereabouts you are from? Sorry, my brain just spaced out for us again there.
Just in the chat, that would be much appreciated because we love to know who we’re talking to.
Oh, sorry, I’ve just had a message to say someone can’t get in.
It will.
Alright, sorry, I’m just getting, hopefully getting somebody in. Cool, and I’m gonna have a look at these messages as they come through. How exciting!
Nearly three years from Dunedin, love it.
Cool, chat is absolutely fine, Adele.
Canterbury, Northland, Auckland, Christchurch, Canterbury. Hey guys, we almost had the whole country covered. How good? Just need someone from Invercago.
So, I’m Among Inui for those of you that don’t know me, my name is Lauren Peat. I’m A bariatric nurse and also had surgery myself 7 and a bit years ago now. And so, I’ll go back into a little bit more around that in a little bit, but I just thought, just for a little bit of an intro, it’s really cool to see.
How far post up? We’ve got quite a range, which is awesome. And equally, whereabouts in the country you are. And yeah, I think one of the last workshops, we had someone from the UK, which was very cool. But yeah, if anyone knows someone that’s trying to get in and they’re having issues, let us know. I’m just hoping that we can get everybody in.
In.
But.
So, fingers crossed. All right, otherwise I might send Maree on a mission.
All right, so how are we going? A few people in here, I was expecting a few more, but that is okay. It could be a technical issue. A few more jumping in as I talk. So please, if just a little bit of housekeeping, this session is designed to be totally interactive. All my coaching style is totally interactive.
Ask the questions that you need to get answered. Equally, there is a PowerPoint that will go through, which is fantastic. And then also, don’t be afraid to stay long at the end if you do have anything else that’s kind of burning, because I really want to get your questions answered. Please try and use the chat unless I ask you to unmute.
just saves that kind of people overtalking each other. And what else was I going to say? I’m having a bit of mind blanks tonight. But yeah, if there is anything that pops up, please do cheque it in the chat and either myself or Maree will get to it. Maree will probably say it before me just because she’s all right there.
But yes, I will get started with this PowerPoint and, oh, that’s what I was going to say. And if you do have to pop out for whatever reason, kids are screaming, whatever, and you can’t concentrate, that is absolutely fine. This will be emailed out to you so you can re-watch it in your own time if you need to. All right? No pressure. You do not have to have your camera on. You can have it off or you can have it on because it’s always nicer to actually talk to people and see your pretty faces.
So please take the time to engage. You get more out of coaching when people actually engage in share where they’re at. So I appreciate all the comments that are coming through around where everyone’s from and how far postdot you are. I’m just going to double cheque and see what’s going on here.
Ohh, okay.
All right, Maree, I’m going to flick you a quick message.
But someone who’s struggling to get in, you might be able to work it, I’m not sure.
Right, we don’t want anyone to miss out, that’s not cool.
But…
Cool. Did you get that, Maree? Yep, perfect. All right, so I am going to start, but yeah, flag me down if there’s anything that does pop up. So, oh, we’ve got someone else coming in.
Awesome, right. Oh, should I just cheque that there’s no people sitting in the room waiting room? No, it doesn’t look like it. Cool.
Sometimes there’s technology that’s sweet things. All right, so…
Eric Post Docs Success Workshop. Welcome. You guys made it. How good. I’m so excited to have you all here. And I bet you’re excited to be here because everyone wants success after surgery. That is the aim of the game, right? That is why we do what we do. That’s why we had surgery. It wasn’t a gamble. We just wanted that success. That was a choice.
And you didn’t fail. You were never meant to do this alone. And I think of the whole journey that I’ve been on, that’s probably one of the biggest lessons I learned was that struggling through it on your own, yeah, you might work some stuff out, but it’s so much better when you’ve got a community around you that actually gets it. And so
There’s no such thing as failure when you work with me because you don’t fail. You only fail if you choose to give up and keep doing your old habits that are sabotaging you. So welcome each and every one of you. I’m so proud of you for showing up for yourselves because admitting and knowing that you need long-term success
Kind of feels like a big pill to swallow and I’m proud of you for acknowledging that actually I need this workshop. So it’s so good that you’re here.
All right, so I’m Lauren. I’m Lauren Peat. I am a bariatric nurse, registered nurse, life coach, metaphors coach, and I live and breathe bariatrics and love supporting you on your journey to success.
As a mum of four, for beautiful girls, I have my eldest is about to turn 12, my youngest is 2, so I am in the thick of hormones and baby-dom, so I’ve done it all. Two of my babies were born post-op. I also get the struggle of balancing kids’ life admin and prioritising myself as well as building.
up my business and supporting amazing, wonderful people that I do. So I had surgery seven years ago. So not only do I talk the talk, I also walk the walk. So I have struggled with regain myself and I have lost the regain that I had gained after surgery. And so when I say I speak from experience, I really, really get it and I really, really get the emotions and the
challenges that some of you face. I can’t guarantee that I experience everything, but what I don’t, we try and cover as a team. So yeah, we are always there to share our expertise and my wonderful group of coaches is led by me. So as you can see in this picture, this is me the day I had surgery actually in hospital, in the hospital gown.
I have also been featured on the Australian Weight Loss Surgery Podcast. I’m a member of NACOS, which is the National Association of Clinical Obesity Services, and I have been featured in the Association of Salaried Medical Specialists Journal. So I come with a huge array of knowledge, skills and experience.
not only from my nursing background, the clinical expertise, but actually live in it as well. So that’s kind of what sets me apart from everybody else is that I actually get it. And I’m not going to be like some of the dietitians that sit there and tell you, but you just have to eat like this because I actually understand the realities of it. So that’s what makes me a little bit different to others.
So the reality after surgery is that life gets busy, right? I know that as well as most of you do. Having four kids, 2 post-op, like I just totally get how busy life can get. Your priority shift. So that first year after surgery, there’s a really good amount of focus and like, this is my year, this is where I’m really nailing down, I’m getting all the steps right.
But as we get further and further post-op, those challenges start to resurface quite a bit. And it can cause a lot of challenges in terms of sneaky little habits, sneaking back in and priorities, right? All of a sudden, it’s no longer about you and you’re still having to function in life and make eating well and juggling movement and all the things kind of starts to catch up on you. And then on top of that,
There’s your identity and how you think about food and your old patterns start to return. So many people will end up, particularly at that point, struggling silently. Because it’s really scary to admit that actually I’m struggling after surgery when I spend all this money to have this amazing life-changing success and people are commenting on my weight going down.
But the reality is that I’m starting to eat some of the foods and it’s not going so well for me. So no matter whereabouts you are in the journey, because we’ve got such a broad range here tonight and I love it, there is a general pattern of behaviour that I see across everybody. So, you know, you’ve got the honeymoon period, that’s great. And then longer term, we start to see some of this
ritual habitual habit eating coming in, the emotional eating, because life happens, right? It doesn’t just stop. And unfortunately, surgery is the most amazing tool that we can give ourselves.
However, unless we deal with the reasoning and behaviours and mindset changes behind the eating, we’re not actually setting ourselves up for success. And the challenge there isn’t so much that you don’t know you should do it, it’s actually you don’t know where to start. You don’t know what you should be implementing. You don’t know how.
you can change and modify those behaviors. And that’s where we work in our absolute expert area, is we really work with you to get you on track in changing some of those conversations that we have up in our head. So you no longer have to struggle on your own. And I’ll share more on our coaching later, but
this workshop is going to cover some of the stuff. So to understand why, why are we doing some of the stuff? But know that you don’t have to struggle on your own anymore. And each and every one of you in this call, I know is rooting for the other to succeed. That is just the community that we inspire. And I love that so much for you all.
So, you didn’t fail your surgery, you followed the rules at first. Yeah, who can relate to that? Things are good until they win. Some of you might be like, things are still good, and I love that. How good. And the best place we can catch is before the wheels start falling off. The next best place is right now. So, really,
Follow the rules, great. But then life gets, that gets a bit boring after a while. And if you’re anything like me, you get a little bit impulsive, you’re like, actually, I’m gonna do what I want. I’m gonna try a little bit of this, I’m gonna try a little bit of that. And that snowballs into a little bit of regain, yeah? Or at least feeling like, oh, this could end up that way. So life happens.
And now you’re wondering, and why am I here again?
I spent all this money in.
I get it. And the reality is you haven’t failed. And I really, really want you to know that because it can feel really scary and daunting to see the potential of that or the reality of that. And so just, I want you to know that this is not the end point. And we have got so many women like yourself, that and men.
back from that regain point or back and got that behaviour and mindset around eating sorted. So I love it so much. All right, does this feel familiar to you? Knowing what to do?
but struggling to do it and feeling alone with it. Put your hand up if that’s you.
Yeah, so I love that you’re here for that. I really, really do, because we’ve been there.
So fun fact, all of my coaches have had surgery as well, so we all actually get it. And I know, because that was me too. That was 100% me. I was like, I started doing this because I saw that people were struggling and I was like, but I’m struggling too, so how do we fix it? And so over the last 5 1/2 years, I’ve really worked and evolved and
Grouw my programmes to be able to actually stop you feeling alone, actually stop your struggle, and actually teach you how to know what to do.
So beyond the scale, success after surgery isn’t just protein, steps and water. We’d love for it to just be that, and that is at the fundamentals, but it’s also regulating your dopamine.
Calming down that nervous system so you feel safe.
Changing your identity, not getting rid of who you are, but changing the parts of you that are sabotaging you or getting in your way from being the best version of yourself. Emotional rewiring, because I’d say most of you in this group identify as an emotional leader at some point, if not all the time. And that’s normal too.
and rebuilding self-trust. That’s something I’ve really come to realise in this last year is just how far you won’t get if you don’t trust yourself. And chances are a lot of you don’t actually trust yourself. And so learning how to trust yourself again is fundamental. So we don’t just manage food. In fact,
If you ask some of the club members that are actually on this call tonight, most of them will know that. We touch on food, but it’s not actually the focus on what we do. And we touch on the scales, but very, very rarely, because the reality is, is actually we’re looking at what are the patterns, what are the behaviors, what is actually underpinning everything that you do.
So who can relate to this image? I think this is absolutely phenomenal that, you know, you look in the mirror and you just see a totally different version of you. Whether that’s bigger, and that’s just almost like the imposter syndrome, right? Very real for me. I remember, how long ago would it be, maybe eight months ago,
I was like, right, I’ve lost my regain, I’m feeling great. Now I’m going to do a post for social media where I make myself like, you know, get the fattest angle that I can so that I can represent this exact image where I’m looking in the mirror and this is what I see versus the reality. Only I took that fat image and
I was like, no. I like actually looking back on a couple of days, I was like, you don’t even look fat in the image. So it’s really crazy how our brains think very differently to what our actual reality is.
So what surgery changes and what it doesn’t? So surgery changes your stomach size, of course. It has a big impact on your hunger hormones and of course your absorption. So obviously we have to take vitamins long term because we are nutritionally deficit. Surgery does not automatically change our emotional.
coping skills, our stress responses, including our parasympathetic and nervous sympathetic nervous system, so that our fight or flight response, our dopamine pathway, so that’s our reward system, or our identity, how we actually see ourselves and how we communicate with ourselves and how we show off in the world. So weight regain is really about hunger.
And it’s actually really, eating food is a symptom. Obviously, we need to fuel our bodies to function every day. But actually, at the crux of it, your eating choices, especially if they’re sabotaging, is actually a symptom of something else going on. So we look in addressing that kind of work.
So why regain happens? It’s not because you failed, but it’s because your old neural pathways are strong. So think of it like walking down to the beach track. You could choose to just go straight down the bank and turn into through trees or bushes or what have you. You might get a bit scraped off on the way and it’s going to be the harder path.
Or if you’ve got really strong neural pathways, there’s probably like a well-trodden track that you take. And that’s kind of our default way of being, right? When we dopamine seek, we are actually seeking that really familiar. Humans love familiarity. We really like what we like.
And I actually said this on a coaching call this morning. I like what I like and not much else. And it is very, very true for all of us. Stress hormones. So hormones in general is a huge system in our body that we don’t realise the impact that it has on our regain or on our weight.
And if you’ve got high cortisol, high stress hormones, it’s going to impact your weight loss. So it also increases that reward seeking because if you’re stressed, you want to feel better. So you’re wanting to get more of a dopamine switch. And unfortunately,
The quickest, easiest way for a lot of us, because we’ve learned this, is, oh, I just eat food and I get dopamine. And so we look at really breaking down those patterns. Identity hasn’t caught up with weight loss. Like we said around that cat and lion picture,
who you see yourself as and who you identify as, the yo-yo diet, the habitual eater, all of those things, that’s still living with you. And so it’s not until you understand how to change that identity, keeping the good stuff, because we want to keep the great parts of you, but letting go of the stuff that’s not serving you, only then can we
start to address the regain. And it’s actually, it’s amazingly powerful, power of our mind.
So your brain allows familiar. That’s what I said before. Your brain is wired for survival, not weight loss. So apologies for anyone that is religious, and I do not mean to offend, but going back to that caveman, the caveman days, it was very much a, I need to survive. How is the best way to survive right now? And generally speaking, it is
I need to eat the food when it’s there. And unfortunately, we live in a really abundant world for now. I don’t know what’s going to happen on with supply chain stuff at the moment. But at the moment, we live in a world full of abundance. So we can go down to the supermarket or the dairy that is very close to our homes and get everything that we could possibly need. So back in the caveman days, though, it could have been a couple of days before we would eat again.
So it was really different in our brain and our wiring and our chemistry has not caught up with that all that well. It also seeks comfort when stressed. So the human brain doesn’t like to live in a high cortisol world. Cortisol is great for helping with our sleep regulation. However,
When we’re stressed and we have that really high, it actually inhibits our weight loss. It seeks dopamine when flat, so…
There is some research that says people who are addictive personalities, which unfortunately I would say everyone that needs weight loss surgery had some element for an addictive personality. I do apologise if that offends anyone, but it is the truth, actually has extra dopamine receptors in their brain. And so what happens is that our
flat baseline is a little bit lower than everybody else’s because we have more need for dopamine. And so that means we actively seek out more. And it seeks familiarity when overwhelmed. Gosh, let’s say that 10 times fast. So when we are feeling overwhelmed,
We just want to feel better. And often when you haven’t learned to process the emotions well, work through them or let them go through you, that’s when we find that overwhelm, you know, it’s just that well-trodden path, right? It’s just quick, easy, how do I make myself feel better, often with food.
So it isn’t weakness, it’s actually neurology.
So, neuroplasticity. This is a very big word, but it basically is how you rewire your brain. So the brain and your behaviours can be rewired, and doing things on repeat builds new pathways. So like creating a new track to go to the beach,
The more you do it, the easier the path’s going to get. Support strengthens that change. So what we find in our success club is that the more calls that people turn up to, the more they’re living it every single day. So it’s really easy to live with your head in the sand, pretending stuff isn’t happening, but you’re still taking the path of least resistance. And so it only has to be hard for a really short amount of time when we start to
adjust things a little bit. And even then, you know, you can just do slight deviations until you’ve created a bigger, wider, better path. But it’s around having that community that gets it. It pulls you up when you’re feeling down and that you can just lean on for support. And environment shapes behavior. I don’t know.
I don’t know if I can express just how amazing it is when you are surrounded by people that have the same goal, that they have the same end result that they want, and just how contagious that is. And how excited you can be for somebody else that you didn’t even know a couple of weeks ago, just when you actually get to live in their world. You get to know their partner’s name, because I’m really big on that.
So that’s one of the reasons I, one of the many reasons I walked away from day-to-day ward nursing was because for me, when I was ward nursing, I didn’t want this, but patients were bed numbers.
And it was just tick box nursing and I hate tick box nursing. And what I really wanted to do was get to know and understand my patient because not everyone is the same. And so that’s what I love so much about the community we’ve created is because…
I get to know you. I get to know who your husband’s name. I get to know that you have kids or not. I get to know what’s going on in your world. And I get to see you five days a week. How good. So the reality is, is that you actually get to be surrounded by love all the time and people that are helping to help you rewire your brain.
So the gut-brain connection. So as well as our brain, we also have our gut. And there is a nerve that runs down from your brain past your heart to your gut, which is called the vagus nerve. They should be very careful not to cut it during surgery, otherwise it can cause lots of nausea and lots of issues. But basically, your gut is talking directly to your brain via this connection. It’s telling you when you’re full. It’s telling you
When you’re satisfied, it’s telling you your brain, actually, I need some food right now. So hormones influence mood and reward and appetite. And so often if your hormones are out of whack, that is feeding into your guts going, oh, actually, I could deal with a little bit of this. And it sends a whole heap of chemicals up that vagus nerve. So emotional stress can amplify food noise.
And that’s just that dopamine seeking that is actually making your body aware of, okay, I don’t like the situation. How is, how do I take the path of less resistance to get out of this? So it isn’t a willpower problem. It’s actually behaviour in biology. So we can’t change biology, but what we can do is work with it.
And part of that is using neuroplasticity that we were just talking about to help rewire and reframe some of those behaviours so that when you sit on the couch at 8pm, because that’s when you snack, right, that you’re not actually doing that anymore because your brain has changed that pathway to do something else. Or
knee-jerk reaction, something happens and someone gets mad at you at work and you’re not just going straight for the cookies, right? It’s actually around, okay, how do I respond differently and make it at a really easy level.
Right, dopamine and the reward trap. So you’ve heard a little bit about dopamine so far, but dopamine drives motivation, cravings and reward seeking. So before surgery, food may have been your main source of dopamine. And then we have those first few months after surgery where we feel like the world is ending because, oh my gosh, am I ever going to be able to eat food again?
And we realised that we can’t rely on the dopamine side of things for food, so it can get a little bit sad and a little bit hard. And then it comes back.
La.
But dopamine pathways still exist. They don’t actually go away. And stress, boredom, emotions can trigger old reward loops. So that first year is really, really crucial in terms of trying to carve out a better path if you can. But like I said earlier, no time like the present. So if you look further along than that, that’s absolutely
Okay, it’s the correct place to start. So high sugar, high fat foods, sorry, high sugar and high fat foods flood the brain. So they go, oh, this feels amazing. But unfortunately, specifically for high sugar meals, we often get what we call like the sugar crash. So a couple of hours after that,
where you feel like, oh, I’m dying, and rinse and repeat, because, oh, I feel really good. It’s very much an addictive cycle, right? Can you see that? And so what we want to do is move away from some of those rewards and find other ways, because like I said, you’ve got extra dopamine synapses, so we really need to be
targeting them with dopamine, but healthier dopamine that is serving your long-term goal. So your brain remembers what once helped you cope, and it’s your default way of being, right? But we can change the default way of being. So after surgery, finding new healthy ways to satisfy dopamine is absolutely key.
All right, serotonin. Has anyone heard of serotonin before? Yeah.
A couple of people. Yep, perfect. So serotonin controls your mood, sleep, feeling and feelings of fullness. So they work together with the dopamine. Low levels means that we get cravings for carbs and we tend to be emotional eaters. So 90% of serotonins are actually made in your gut.
So it is really important to know just how much our gut actually has an impact on our brain wiring and our brain chemicals. And also it impacts our hormones as well. So like our reproductive hormones, our thyroid hormones. It’s all interlinked, guys. It is not just one system. There is, it is, well, it is 1 system. It’s not just.
This is my reproductive health. This is my thyroid health. This is my brain health, brain chemistry, my gut, fauna and flora. All of those things, all interconnected. We are one human being. How is it?
So, hormones after bariatric surgery, we have ghrelin and leptin, so hunger and satiety.
GLP-1, you guys have heard of those, I’m sure, in terms of the injectables. What they actually do is it is a satiety inducing chemical and our body naturally produces it in our stomach to help us tell our brain that we’re full. So up that vagus nerve. Like I said, there’s lots of things that go up the vagus nerve. However,
I am not a strong advocate for GLP-1s after surgery. And I am alternative to a lot of the community in that regard. My reason being is because I just see it as another fad diet. However, if you are using it as a tool to lose weight,
I’m absolutely all for that. Like I’m all for tools. If you haven’t had surgery, absolutely. But I just want you to realise that again, it is a tool and it’s not actually the answer to why you are eating. Insulin can be at play. Polycystic ovaries can have a huge impact on your insulin resistance. Insulin is huge in terms of
your fat storage and in turn glucose, and then cortisol, like we’ve already talked about. So hormones can shift, but the stress can override them. So if cortisol is heightened, these other hormones that are on the screen are going to be impacted. So it’s a very fine balanced system, and unfortunately, they all work to compensate each other.
And so if your insulin is high, cortisol levels are probably going to be high, which is going to mean that it’s going to be harder for your body to break down the fat molecules. If your ghrelin and leptin are impacted, they may be increased. So your hunger may be increased and satiety decreased if you’re going through menopause or if you have got high stress going on.
GLP-1, that might be absolutely wiped out in terms of from a whole number of things, insulin, cortisol, all of them come to play and have a really big impact. So it’s really understanding that we can’t, whilst we can’t be like, yes, we can fix that right now, what we need to do is look at it as a whole system and what’s actually playing.
apart in learning to listen to our bodies.
So hunger hormones. So ghrelin triggers the hunger and leptin signals the fullness. After surgery or dieting, ghrelin may drop and leptin may not work properly. So what happens when we eat is we, well, before we eat, we get a hunger signal, right? That’s usually a tummy rumbling, it could be a watery mouth,
but your body goes, oh, hey, your stomach goes, oh, oh, hey to the brain. I actually think I need something. Well, sometimes it’s the brain going, I don’t have enough glucose to fuel my body to make me do anything, so I need to have something. Ghrelin is released so that those levels spark, which increases your after. It goes, actually, yeah, I am really hungry.
So then, ideally, you ate.
Unfortunately, that increases that resistance.
And then we reduce the fullness and then we continue to feel hungry. So as we start to break that, it all really comes down to metabolism. But this hunger hormones start to get out of whack and surgery is unfortunately a really big factor in breaking some of this. And it’s around getting it back on track.
So, well, there is benefits, right, though, because we feel fuller for longer, but it’s just around actually making sure that we realise that we have to get these things back in balance. So, GLP-1 hormones, they help signal fullness to the brain after eating, reducing the hunger. Higher GLP-1 levels can support less hunger if you’re craving. Some people use GLP-1 medications.
But lasting results come from the deeper work. So like I was saying before, building those new habits, managing stress, and retraining the brain. Medication can help, absolutely, absolutely. But mind work drives long-term change. So just be aware of that. I’m not saying don’t do them. I’m just saying look at why you’re doing them.
just really be mindful of, is this just another band-aid? But equally, I’m never going to judge anyone for using them, but I just want you guys to understand my stance on them.
Because I can, well, and why I say this so passionately is because I’ve seen amazing results without them. I’ve seen people actually come back from that regain without needing to have injectables. They’re very new age and fad right now. But like I said, the lasting, longer, sustainable change actually comes from working out why you’re eating to begin with.
So insulin. Insulin helps your body use sugar from food for energy. So it is important. And like I said, your brain requires it to help you think and process and do all the things. And it requires quite a decent level. Every time we eat carbohydrates, they get broken down into sugars in your bloodstream. And that is fantastic because our brain needs it.
So I don’t promote a no carb diet, but we can eat low carb because we’re still getting enough in a lot of the foods that we are eating. So better insulin sensitivity means to your cravings. When you have good insulin sensitivity, it means your body is, your pancreas is producing enough insulin.
to meet the glucose needs to fuel your body, to create the energy. However, if they’re out of whack, that’s when things start to go a little bit askew. And again, it’s a hormone, so it’s going to impact all the other symptoms. So if we’ve got good insulin, it’s causing better energy, less hunger, easier habits, and stabilising it as well as sugar. So we really want that.
And like I said, there are medical conditions that can feed into that that make them go a little bit wonky. And insulin resistance is another one very common after surgery. But actually learning how to eat to stabilise your blood sugars is really, really important.
So, cortisol, the stress trigger, probably my most talked about hormone, I reckon, Maree, do you reckon? I talk about cortisol all the time. This is your fight or flight hormone and it serves a purpose. It’s your get up and go hormone. It’s what should be high in the morning and low at night. Often it’s not. It’s released when your body is under stress or part of
or a part of your circadian rhythm to help you get up and go in the morning. It’s helpful for survival, but chronic stress keeps it elevated. And that’s what leads to long-term weight gain, because we can’t process all the other stuff because the hormone is too high. So high cortisol can increase hunger and drive cravings for quick energy levels. Because like I said,
Your greel in, and even that GLP one is impacted if those quarters or levels are too high.
So stress trigger, release the cortisol, increase cravings, emotional eating, rinse and repeat because you get guilty in feeling ashamed that you’ve done it. And then you get more stressed and so you want to make yourself feel better so then you get some more stress hormones and then you eat some more. It’s A vicious cycle and so we need to learn
break it so that you can have long-term success.
So when it comes to actually knowing who you are, and we do some amazing work on us inside the club, but you first need to understand what you believe. What are your current beliefs around food?
What makes you eat the way you do?
What are your actions that you want?
And how do you get those results?
Because long-term success isn’t built on what you do, it’s built on who you believe you are. So how we do this in the club is we look at, well, who are you now and who do you want to be?
How do we get you to be the version of you that you want to be? That future you that lives the best life?
And then how do we measure those results? How do we know that we’ve actually got there?
And how do we stay there and be happy about staying there? You know, I’ve had conversations with people that are like, actually, I’m scared to maintain. I’m scared to stay in the good spot because I don’t know what that looks and feels like for me. And that’s very real.
And so just because that’s where you know you think you should be, doesn’t mean that your brain isn’t seeking out that level of comfort that it wants to get back to where it was, because I actually, I feel more comfortable there for a magnitude of reason. So we look at the stories behind what you’re telling yourself around food. We look at who you are, who you believe you could be,
and the bridge between getting there and actually how we can do it today. So it’s not around, oh, one day I’d like to be this, it’s around, well, who am I going to be today? How am I going to show up for me? And we build on those results day in and day out, day in and day out, and you show up for yourself over and over and over and over again. So guys,
How do you want to be in a year from now? How does that person look different to who you are now? Chuck in in the chat. I’d love to know. I want to see who are you now that maybe you’re struggling with for maybe, you know, there’s some behaviours at play that you’re not really loving right now. And who do you want to be?
How do you want to show up in your world?
I’m pulling up the jet flight now.
Might take that paper of time, that’s OK.
And if you don’t know, that’s okay too, but just consider it.
I’ll give you guys a little bit of time. I’m going to have a drink, lots of talking.
Happy, healthy, and able to support my family and friends. Get out and socialise and have fun. Hell yes, that sounds amazing. Who’s there for that? I’m keen for that. That sounds like a great future version of you. That sounds wonderful. I love that so much.
I want to not stress every day about regaining, yeah.
I love that, because do you know what? A year from now, you don’t have to be that person, and you won’t be that person.
Oh, another one, someone who can make a good decision easily. Oh, it jumped and make the right choices without thinking twice. I love that. And you know what? You’re going to do that and you’re going to be wonderful. You’ll be so proud of yourself. I want to be the person that makes better choices no matter how busy and stressed I am with work in life.
Yeah, and I want it to be easy for you, Carla. I really want it to be easy for you. Yeah, great deal of grief. I’m sorry to hear that and stress. I would just like to feel normal again. I feel for you. I really feel for you. And like I said, there’s so many seasons of your life. And I just want you to just
meet yourself where you’re at right now. Let that grief pass through you. Try not to hold on to it too much and just accept that there are stages of grief and let go of what you can’t control. You can control what you can control, but you can’t control a lot of the other stuff we’d like to control. And choose one thing that’s going to make you feel normal again.
Just one thing.
All right, next one. Being able to keep up with Miss 8 easier and support her with her food habits moving forward. Yes, we have a duty guys. We have a duty to be supporting the next generation in their food choices. We’ve learned the lessons the hard way and actually in a year’s time, even sooner actually.
You can choose to be someone different who has amazing food habits and teaches her all the wonderful things and choices that she gets to make. All right, someone who feels comfortable in her own skin. Oh yeah, I via most of us can relate to that one. And you’re going to be that. I absolutely know it.
because you get to choose it. You get to be comfortable in your own skin. You get to love who you are, because it’s about loving yourself and trusting yourself. And spell better. Honestly, I feel like I do spelling mistakes all the time, so no stress. That’s why Maree spell cheques everything.
She’s cracking up. One of the main reasons for surgery was to spend time with my kids, which was amazing at the start. Unfortunately, I didn’t deal with my feelings and the reasons that I had in the 1st place. Yeah, we’ve all been there. Transference addiction to alcohol. Again, very, very common. I’m so glad you’re sober in figuring things out, but
It’s very common to have transference addictions after surgery. So yeah, I thank you for your vulnerability. And you’re eating your feelings. Again, there’s no place to start that right now. And I want you to be free of the food noise. It is, you know, I’m 7 years in and my journey to getting rid of the food noise has
taken me this long, and it’s just learning the tools and putting them into practice. And just a couple of months ago was the first time ever that my new reaction wasn’t just to heat my emotions. So it takes practice, it takes accountability, and it takes authenticity in meeting yourself exactly where you’re at. So you should be so proud of yourself for getting sober. I’m really, really proud of you.
That dopamine seeking is really, really common and often shopping addiction can be another one, turning to alcohol.
Yeah, there’s lots of them, lots of them. So please don’t feel bad for admitting that. And I’m really proud and thankful that you did. And quality time is huge. That’s exactly why I had surgery. I had surgery because I was sick of sitting on the sidelines for my kids. And I wanted to enjoy life. And you know what? I get to now.
And it’s so cool, and so do you know what? You get to choose that. You get to choose to be Sober in your son. You get, you can be that person.
We can work with the feelings around food, we can work with moving through that emotional eating and you get to choose to spend quality time with your children and enjoy being with them again. Even on the hard days, right? Because sometimes the hard days are the hardest times to be with kids, I get it. And sometimes it’s like get out the door. But the reality is that
They’re already little, they’re only kids for such a short amount of time, and so we need to make the most of that time and be the best version of a mum that we want to be, or dad.
So next one, I want to be the person who doesn’t reach for unhealthy food because I’m tired and burnt out. Hey Maree, can you quickly unmute and just speak to that one?
Maree Chubb 42:45
I think actually a lot of us feel like that. It’s very, very common. So yeah, I just think we all get it. But definitely being an emotional eater as I am, I do when I’m tired, that’s what I think of and I will go and want something to eat.
But now I actually stop and I think, what is the emotion that I am feeling? And so just that whole pause has really been just so life changing. But I think we all get it, to be fair. I think we all get it.
Lauren Peat 43:16
Yeah, yeah.
And you can absolutely be that. So Maree is one of my coaches on my team and she is phenomenal. She joined our team and had never done any coaching programmes for me before. She joined us in October, was it October? And in that short amount of time, she has gone from being an emotional leader, like
I totally relate, like again as well, to being able to be free and clear to make those decisions. So just want you to know that it doesn’t take a huge amount of time if you’re actually committed and want to be that person. Because burnout is very real. As someone who has diagnosed ADHD, takes medication for it.
So it seems to attract other people with ADHD. Burnout for me can last a really long time. When I was doing insanely hours a couple of years ago, like working retreats and then also doing like 16 hour days, don’t recommend, it wasn’t healthy. I went out really badly and it took me about nine months to recover from that.
So, you know, burnout is so real. The fatigue of just getting out of bed each morning can be huge for you. So just meet yourself with kindness. Don’t beat yourself up and feel guilty. And just focus on one thing, one thing at a time, one small step. So next one, I want to believe I deserve happiness, therefore to stop sabotaging my weight.
Well, I challenge you to why I want you to ask yourself why you don’t believe you deserve happiness.
Because you want to believe it, but why don’t you believe that? Just consider it. Because I totally believe that you deserve happiness, because I think everyone in this room deserves happiness. And I don’t understand why someone would not believe that of themselves, but I also get it from that mental work as well. So just ponder that for yourself. And yeah, another one with, I’m sorry to hear that. It is a real struggle. But I want you to know it is possible to be the best version of yourself in a year for now. And it doesn’t have to be as hard as you think it’s going to be. It really, really doesn’t. It just takes looking at your identity, what your beliefs are, doing some actions and monitoring those results. So the identity loop. So if I believe I’m always someone who quits or self-sabotage or gives in my way, I act inconsistently. I get inconsistent results. And that reinforces that identity, right? That I’m A quitter. I can’t do it. If I believe in someone who takes care of myself, I make aligned choices. I get to choose. to take care of myself. I build evidence. So humans love evidence. We’re always looking for, oh, how does this show up for my life? How do I make this make sense and make myself agree? And if you’re always looking for that I’m a quitter, you’re going to quit every single time. If you believe that you’re someone who takes care of yourself and Put yourself first. You gotta find evidence for that. So it reinforces that identity. Identity is a practise though. So you don’t wake up every day, one day as a new person. But we can start on day one as a new person. You get to choose that. But you practise being that person. It’s much like learning to walk, right? You can’t just run from the get-go. We actually have to do all the stages and start to learn. Again, that first year post-doc, we had to learn how to eat for a new tummy and start to build up on all the foods that we could eat. It’s very much the same in terms of rebuilding and restructuring the identity that you want to have. So you practise them again and again and again and again, even on the hard days, even on the messy days, even when it feels like… Oh, I just want to stay in bed. Choose you every single time. So what improves long-term success? The research shows that better outcome, what improves long-term success? Research shows better outcomes with ongoing structured support. So you need a support network of people that actually get it. Peer accountability, people to pull you up on your BS. People have said that I’m very straight to the point, but I will only give people the push when they need it. And I’m very, very gentle and firm in that regard. That’s the kind of coaching I do. Behavioural retraining. So you need to look at what behaviours are sabotaging you right now and what is serving you. Emotional regulation tools. What emotions are actually spinning you out of control right now? And what is a healthier coping strategy? Protein consistency. You hear a lot around protein, but protein is what’s going to keep you satisfied for longer and get you on track for long-term success. So information alone does not predict success. I could sit here all night and tell you all the information in the world, but who you actually learned to implement today in your life. It’s just information on the page. So the environment, who you surround yourself with, all the people that are in your corner actually cheering for you, that is what improves long-term success outcomes. So this is our wonderful coaching team, the lovely Tash, myself, Kim. So Tash is our marketing manager and client experience inside the group chat and the app. Is she in the app yet, Maree? I think she’s on there. Hopefully she’s in there. Yeah, cool. We have an app as well that’s just launched this year. So That is where our community is based. There’s a whole heap of resources. I’m putting new information in there all the time. It’s a really great little hub community. We also have a group chat. Kim is our student nurse as well as personal trainer. So she does movement sessions and personalised workout plans. And then of course, you’ve met Maree already. And so this is our coaching team. Everyone has had surgery. That was a non-negotiable for me. I wanted people who got it. I wanted people who had walked the hard rounds and actually could tell you, yep, I did that and this is how I got through it. Because people get bariatric life. They believe it and they love it and they know how to show up for you over and over and over again. And so this is our team of coaches. I’m not saying that it won’t expand in the future, but this is who we’ve got at the moment. If you were to join Success Club, you will be allocated a personal coach as well. So a personal coach who gets to cheque in on you once a week be like, hey, how’s it going? What’s going on? Because we never want you to feel like you’re falling through the cracks. We’re always there to cheerlead you on. And we want to know when stuff is hard, not just when stuff is good. And we have five sessions a week. So Monday to Friday, there is a session every single day. So you are never without your coaching team. I’m at most of them at the moment. that might change in the future, but for now I’m at most of them. And we don’t just stick to themes. So each day has a different theme. Mondays on around mindset, so growing that mindset and really working on the mental agility and growing your relationship with yourself and your food. Tuesday is Movement with Kim. Wednesday is nutrition. Thursday is our fundamentals, which is the most phenomenal programme that we’ve invented. We’ve just increased it as of today, so there is now 7 sessions. So you can start halfway through. It doesn’t really matter. They’re all recorded. But 7 sessions really helping you nail down on all the fundamentals. to set you up for success. Think of them as like the foundations of your success. And then all the other meetings that we have during the week help build on that. But we’re going to nail the foundations first. Like protein, water, sleep, some of the mental stuff, some of the language that you use. All of those things are all in that fundamentals program. And then on Friday, we have an accountability support catch up. So it’s goal setting, it’s reflecting on the week, and then it’s actually building out a plan for the next week. So that is what we do in the club. There’s so much more. There’s meal plans, there’s personal training plans. There is so much, but I skipped ahead. that it’s support, it’s structure, it’s accountability, it’s brain-based strategy. So I talk from a place of a medical professional, as well as someone who’s lived it. And I’m constantly educating myself in upskilling so that I’m giving you the very best and cutting edge around the neuroscience of things, around healthcare, I need to troubleshoot as well. So if you’ve got health stuff kind of flaring up, and Miguel, click me your blood test. I can’t guarantee that I can fix it, but I can give you an educated guess around what next step might be for you. So I’m always there for that and training came up on that as well. We look at tools for managing stress and emotions. It’s so safe and supportive. There’s a couple of group members in the chat tonight. If you are feeling brave, cheque in the chat just, you know, what you’ve found the best part around being in the club. That would be amazing. If you don’t, that’s okay too. So it helps you feel more in control with your food choices, reduces your stress around food and that food noise is Absolutely huge. Experience quieter food noise and cravings. Like I said, it’s around getting back on the track, back on track sooner. And when you’re with everyone a lot, then it’s so much easier to be like, oh, actually, maybe I will be good for the next meal. I don’t have to wait till Monday, right? because we’ve all done that. I’m just going to wait till Monday. But it doesn’t serve you because there can often be quite a few days between now and Monday and quite a bit of binge journey in between. And so we really want to address and deal with those behaviours before it starts ****. Because there’s nothing worse, guys, than waking up 6, 9, 12 months down the track and going, holy heck, how did I regain 20 kilos?
Oh, that just happened to me. Oops, this is what I was saying earlier in the weekend, Maree. Oops, that food just fell in my mouth.
Where did that whole bag of chippies go? And when we’re not aware of it, that’s when the problems start to show up. So yeah, like these guys are chucking in their experience. I love that. Thank you, team. I really, really appreciate that. And I appreciate you guys being here as well. They didn’t have to come, but I said, come, that would be great. And so I really, really love that.
Danielle said she’s lost 6 kilos in this January for it. She’s held accountable, loves her coach, looking at you Maree, when feeling like she’s dropping off and is there to lift me up. Love that. Information is everything, absolutely, but we help you actually implement it. Adele said daily goals and accountability, having cheerleaders hit you on track, and Tasha, who’s just joined,
said that the support so far has been great. And so, you know, these people are living it every single day and I just love that so much. And I feel like a proud mum half the time because I just see the growth that everyone goes through and it’s amazing. So, you know, strengthen emotional regulation, create that safer coping strategies, get on the track sooner because that’s what we want. So what’s included? The five group sessions per week.
private bariatric support community, our app, step-by-step emotional eating and habit change strategies, monthly Berry Body collagen delivered to your door. How good. So for those of you that don’t know, I am also the founder of Berry Body, New Zealand’s only bariatric nurse designed tasteless collagen powder and it is
phenomenal, everyone that tries it loves it. So it’s a great way to help increase your protein intake. So you get that part of your 60 Club membership for the new ones jumping in. Your Barry Nourish meal plan, so a really tailored personalised meal plan, recipes and a movement guidance, so a movement plan from Kim. So it supports structure and accountability.
We do it all. We honestly, if I could add more, I don’t know what else more I would add into this club because I hope that we’ve covered everything because we just, our only goal is to see you absolutely flourish and thrive after surgery.
So investment in how to join. So it is a three month subscription program. So Success Club is designed to be longer term, but we kind of want you to stay for at least three months to really get a feel and start to notice the changes in your life. We have payment options which are weekly, fortnightly and monthly available. You can pay via credit card or bank account transfer, either is fine.
This is the current fees. If you are interested in joining, we would absolutely love to have you and you are welcome to stay on after this call or now and we will cheque you into a call and chat with Maree and she will get you signed up. If you don’t, that’s okay. I hope you got a lot out of this session. It’s been absolutely phenomenal to have you all here.
But I’m going to say, and I’m going to answer any questions, but if you are wanting to jump in with Maree and talk around coaching, payment plans, any of those options, let me know either in the chat or put your hand up. Carla, you’ve already got your hand up, but then I’ll take you into a room with her when she’s
free and we will get you set up. So yeah, who’s got any questions for me? And who wants to go into a room with Maree? It doesn’t sound as scary as it sounds.
Alright, any questions?
Oh, we got some typing. You can unmute and ask the question if you’d like.
Maree Chubb 56:32
While it’s while Angela’s typing, I would just say that, yes, as you mentioned, Lauren, I joined end of October, so I had regained 16 kgs and I’ve already lost that, but it’s on the lightest that I’ve ever been. But I think what is the best thing is just being able to
have a safe, supportive environment to share, especially those fears. So one fear which Lauren mentioned was the whole fear of maintenance. So because I have actually never maintained my weight in my whole entire life, that was actually quite a fear that I held on to that actually I was never going to go into maintenance. And of course, I never shared that because
you know, that everybody would look at me like I’m crazy on this fear because I didn’t think anybody else would think that. But because it’s such a safe environment, I was able to share that. And then Lauren and one of the other coaches just helped me kind of process that. And it’s just been really quite life changing that I can now, I just feel like I’ve got no food noise. I still can eat.
what I want to eat. I’m just, I feel so in control over my life and it’s just so amazing. And it’s been such a short time. So definitely never thought that that would happen, especially in such a short time, but so amazing. And next month I’m three years post-op. So yeah, it’s been pretty cool. So I’ve now lost 93 kgs. So
Really happy with that. So I just thought I would just share that while these messages were coming. So now you can go to those messages, Lauren.
Lauren Peat 58:06
Thank you.
Yeah, so three months post-op, is it too soon or perfect to join? Absolutely perfect to join. There is no time like the present. We work for people who are pre-op, post-op and long-term post-op. The longest tumour I’ve worked with was 25 years post-op. So
a wee while ago, probably one of the early, early ones in New Zealand. But equally, yes, no time like the present to jump in and change your life. We had earlier this year, we actually had a couple of people that jumped on like the week after surgery. So it is very much, you know, there’s no time like the present to start doing that mind work.
Optifast post-surgery beneficial.
Um…
Two and a half, what, Maggie, you might have to clarify that. You’ve been on it for 2 1/2, is it weeks?
Okay, okay. So yes, you can use OptiFast after surgery if you tolerate it. It is quite high in sugar, so it also can make you feel quite nauseous. It also fills you up quite quickly. So you just need to be mindful of that, but fantastically you’ve lost 5 kilos. I wouldn’t recommend it
long term. So sometimes you can do it as like a pouch reset. There’s not really an actual pouch reset, but if we decrease our intake, our stomach will or our pouch will naturally shrink a little bit. So that can be beneficial. But equally, we need to look at where, well, whereabouts also you are post-op and
why you are resorting to the OptiFast side of things. But yeah, there’s no reason. Oh yeah, go, go. Hi.
Maggie 59:46
Sorry, hi. I thought it would be quick to let you know. So I lost 74 kilos and five years after I was, I had gained 5 kilos, but I was quite happy where I was. And in the last six months, high stress work,
I’ve been reaching for the wrong food. So I know I’m doing it. It’s almost like I’m doing it deliberately and I stacked on 8 kilos.
I, the five kilos is great. I still actually need to lose another five to be honest. But it stopped. It’s just stopped. So for the last week and a half on OptiFast in two cups of veggies, nothing.
Lauren Peat 1:00:23
Okay.
Oh, so you stalled out?
Maggie 1:00:34
Yeah.
Lauren Peat 1:00:34
Yeah, okay, so that’s normal. So if you look back to your initial post-op surgery time, you know how about three weeks post-op we have a stool.
Every single yo-yo diet that you do does the same, but usually we give up before we get to that point.
Maggie 1:00:48
Even with opti.
Lauren Peat 1:00:50
It will update.
Maggie 1:00:51
Ahh.
Lauren Peat 1:00:52
So that’s normal. It should start again if you are in a calorie deficit. But yeah, I would definitely still look at some of the head work around why you had been eating the way you are and trying to manage some of that stress is absolutely going to be fundamental for you. Yeah, good.
Maggie 1:01:08
Yeah.
Thanks.
Lauren Peat 1:01:11
Oh, welcome, alright.
All right, see you, JB. Feed the cat. Yes, feed the cat. All right, I’m just over 2 years post-op and started putting on regain due to crazy work and stress. Yeah, stress is huge. That’s the cortisol hormones, all right? And like a self-belief, yeah, huge. Because fun fact, we lose all our weight after surgery and then all of a sudden we just…
new person, this new body, and we’re supposed to suddenly believe in ourselves. It’s quite a wild journey to actually understand that that doesn’t just happen, and we actually have to build on ourselves. So you want to go on Oddie Fast, but you don’t like the ingredients. Don’t do it.
Don’t do something that is in conflict with your beliefs and actually just start to work on the mindset around your food. So Maree lost her regain without OptiFast. I lost my regain without OptiFast. We have other members of the club that aren’t using OptiFast to lose their weight. I am absolutely all for, like I said earlier, you guys using the tools that you want to.
to support your weight loss, but look at the behaviours behind why you’re eating. Look at what is actually going on. Stress is huge, but equally putting stuff in to support your eating habits so that you’re getting on track so now is way more important. So first thing about the club, Danielle says, is the spot. Lost 6 kilos in January, had accountable, and a lot more coach.
That is it. That is why we do what we do. So did anyone want to jump into a meeting with?
Anne Maree for the club.
Tasha 1:02:42
I’ve got a question for you, Lauren.
Lauren Peat 1:02:44
Yes.
Tasha 1:02:46
So what I want to know is in the Success Club, like, because obviously I’m only relatively new to it, does it help you in there to find out your why? So, I mean, you know, obviously all of us overeat or have overeaten in the past.
or we’ve been addicted to sugar or whatever. And so for me, you know, like I remember when I went to see the psychologist before my surgery, he said to me, you know, one of the things he said to me was, who told you you’re not good enough? And
Lauren Peat 1:03:09
Yeah.
Okay.
Tasha 1:03:25
So, and it sort of went back to the, you know, I don’t deserve this and I don’t deserve that and putting people, other people first and all that sort of stuff. So, yeah, I’m just wanting to know who, how do you find out why you do it? Why you self-sabotage? Why, why you, yeah, okay, we know that chocolate biscuits taste delicious or lollies taste delicious, but there’s got to be another reason apart from the fact that it just tastes good.
Lauren Peat 1:03:50
Yeah. So we look at that and that’s going to be my next session is around the stories behind why you’re telling you what you’re doing in the Monday.But the crux of it is, is that you’ve got a belief system there that’s come to you from childhood.
and the last psychologist, but it’s really around actually don’t make yourself wrong.
Tasha 1:04:16
Yeah.
Lauren Peat 1:04:20
That’s the past version of you, right? That doesn’t have to be the future version of you.
Tasha 1:04:25
Yeah.
Lauren Peat 1:04:25
So it is what it is.
Tasha 1:04:28
Yeah.
Lauren Peat 1:04:28
And actually choosing you and choosing a new way of being is actually going to serve you way more than…
Living in those stories over and over.
Tasha 1:04:37
Yeah.
Lauren Peat 1:04:38
Does that make sense?
Tasha 1:04:40
Yeah, it does.
Lauren Peat 1:04:41
But that’s in the box. You’re welcome. I’m just trying to find people. This is not working. Hi Maree, and I saw I was trying to put someone in.
Tasha Linwood 1:04:43
Thank you.
